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 The new DV laws in Tasmania
« Thread Started on Feb 15, 2005, 8:07am »

Coming to your State soon. The blockbuster new DV laws that make normal human discourse an offense that can mean automatic jailing, without bail.

This is not Family Law, which is bad enough, but criminal law, with drastic powers given to police to enter premises and remove an accused and an obligation to hold in jail. The Law Society in Tasmania has described it as a contravention of Human Rights.

But it may give an advantage to men who have been dispossessed by wrongful accusations. The criminal law levels of evidence apply !!!

Senator Harradine's son was arrested and held without bail for 13 days. The case was dropped due to lack of evidence and an enquiry is now being held and his wife is being charges with four counts of making false reports and four counts of perverting the course of justice. This would never happen in the Family Court of course where false accusations are simply accepted or ignored, but never punished.

Maybe this is the edge that wronged men have been looking for. An unintended consequence of the Tasmanian Feminist Attorney General's draconian law.
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« Reply #1 on Mar 9, 2005, 7:58am »

I've seen the australian intervention order process up close now, and it is unbelievably prejudiced at every level.

Even the literature cheers and encourages women to file intervention orders against men, even on contrived grounds -- often guided by their lawyers who are just taking advantage of a bad law.
In the US, the Intervention Order is called a Restraining Order, and is structured much the same as a hybrid civil-criminal legal instrument.
There is one significant difference in the documents, however, that even I saw with my very limited experience in either country: a warning at the bottom of the US Restraining Order against perjury.

The terms of the Intervention Order do not have even that small safeguard against any wild imagining being given the force of law.

My ex-partner and her daughter have sworn out Intervention Orders against me without reasonable grounds of any kind. They have no fear of perjury or contempt of court.
They can, under the force of these orders, literally do anything they like to me. They can yell, spit, strike, or even steal from me, and if I resist in any way, they can simply call the police and I am arrested or fined.

If that sounds irrational or untrue, then ask me for the name of the Det at Seaford station. I have his surname and badge number.
I got a call from him on e day, an asked him pointedly: "You're telling me these people can abuse, intimidate, insult and even strike me, and if I do anything to resist, you will come here and arrest me?"
His answer: "Yes."

And then he went on happily (Yes his voice was happy.) to repeat my words back to me.

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 Re: The new DV laws in Tasmania
« Reply #2 on May 25, 2005, 10:35am »

Amoranthus,

stop being a gutless d.i.c.k.head.

post the cops name and badge number on this forum.
(include the phone number with area codes)
(chuck in the fax number for good measure).

and next time record the conversation i.d.i.o.t.

or are you as scared of this idiot as you are of these illegal orders?

get real or get a life.
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