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« Thread Started on Nov 20, 2004, 1:47am »

Add links to other forums so Fathers can evaluate the Family Court System quickly to minimise harm to themselves and the children.

http://www.sos-family.org.au/sosforum/default.asp

Separation is avoidable. Let the transition be as smooth and painless as possible.
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« Reply #1 on Nov 22, 2004, 3:22am »

Issues are about using power and control as a means to getting your own way and not liking it when you don't. That's what control is all about isn't it - getting your own way. There would be less conflict if people looked for the GOOD things in each other instead of finding everything "WRONG" as though you don't have choices.

How many people do you know, and this includes you too, who say to people "the thing that annoys me about you is" or "the problem with you is..."

For any relationship to thrive and survive, every human being in the world needs five positive messages to one negative, every single day for their whole life. Do you know that the average person gets a minimum of 245 negatives every day from parents, teachers, friends etc. Criticism does not give you a licence to tell others what you don't like about them.

Consider the possibility that the things you don't like in others could be the very same things they dislike in you. What a scary thought! So the next time you feel like finding fault with someone, judging them on external appearances, stop yourself.

Look for something you like about them and tell them in a way you would want to hear it yourself. Whenever you make judgements about someone else, you set yourself up to be judged by them.

If you're a person who belittles others or you are married to one, it suggests you are severely frustrated in your own particular search for love and worth.

People put others down for the qualities they have not developed in themselves. If you are to be perfectly honest with yourself, there are things about you too that could stand a little attention.

The single most destructive behaviour that destroys relationships is criticism, with blame and fault number two. If awards were given out to the emotions that kill relationships, negativity would be in the running for first prize.

Next time you feel the urge to criticise, check with yourself that what you're about to say to someone else is something you would like to hear said to you.

"What I really like about you is"...

Remember, practice does not make perfect, it makes permanent.
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« Reply #2 on Nov 22, 2004, 5:20am »

Yes, that is very true, those last words

Quote from Leebee: "Remember, practice does not make perfect, it makes permanent. "

All of that was very true, alot of people criticise
different people each day of each month of the year for what they look like on the out side, but most people dont understand, it doesnt matter what is on the outside, it matters on whats on the inside, where there heart lies, where they learn to love, where they learn to give.

Probably 10% of the world really understand this, maybe even less.

This all comes down to Society again, like I have talked about, people are just commonly cruel, all they think about is themselves.

People need to understand the values of love, friendship, trust, honesty.
If you do not have those 4 things, you wont get through life very easy.

Love: Love is a feeling that comes right deep beneath you, it makes you understand how much you care about someone and how you will save them from anything. Save them on the outside, or save them from the inside, either way you are saving them and you are showing your love.

Friendship: Friendship is very important, you need friends to survive - if you wish me to put it bluntly.
Friends are there to help you, to help you talk through things, for someone to hold on when you dont wish to do this with a family member or with another relationship. They can help you succeed more in life.

Trust: Trust is a strong word, when you say it you must mean it. Trust is what combines two together, without trust you can never really have a relationship, it is a very unusual word to describe or I am just dumb - either one.

We come to the last one of a well needed relationship.

Honesty: Honesty is say when someone did something wrong and admitted to their problem and/or helping someone.
If someone is "honest" it means to what ever happens, they will tell the truth.

Now, I believe all those are needed in a relationship.

Thankyou,

Andy~
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« Reply #3 on Feb 16, 2005, 1:52am »

Underscoring sweetness and light is useful but three facts need to be understood.

1. Women initiate 3 out of 4 divorces and a higher proportion of separations.

2. It is usually a shock to the man and she has been considering it for a while.

3. It is normal for a woman seeking legal advice (and usually before she springs the 'news' of her decision on her unsuspecting spouse) to be told to find fault and take out a restraint order.

All three put the father on the back foot and continues to affect all subsequent discussions, Orders, Court proceedings, attitudes and outcomes.

Finding the good points about your partner is a loving thing to do but when the sh*t hits the fan, love has flown. 'Fair' is not a concept divorcing women know. To her, 'fair' is the same as revenge and blame, to minimise her guilt and 'compensate' for her 'loss'. She is only divorcing, destroying her relationship, because of YOU. Not because of your good points but because of all the many bad points she can dredge up, invent, expand and exaggerate beyond recognition, and place on you to justify her decision.

The first thing a father, any man, should do when faced with separation or divorce proceedings, is to take out a restraint order or an AVO. She is going to. Get in first.
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« Reply #4 on May 25, 2005, 10:16am »

hey ! Leebee ...

well done.

you hit the nail right on the head.

did you write that yourself or was it lifted from another article?

if its yours you are brilliant!!!

if we could all live by those rules and understand those principles there would be no more divorce or seperation.

on behalf of all caring parents i would like to award you ten stars for this article.

i gotta be honest though...

i was thinking about the judges who destroyed my family

judge linda dessau
judge sally brown
judge frederico
judge mushin
judge carter
judge bell
judge paul guest (especially paul, he really should have known better)
and all the judicial registrars with special mention to that mad bastard
judicial registrar nikakis

now i started the sentence off as you said:

"What I really like about you is"...

and i gotta tell you Leebee ...

i cant think of one single d**n thing i like about this bunch of human ########.

is it OK if i pass on this group? :)

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